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#32029 - 06/25/03 03:25 PM When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
mdorantes Offline
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Registered: 11/25/00
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Hello everyone:
Does anybody know when is going to be avilable the Card "Plus" 4 the SD1??....what kind of features besides the additional 130some styles/patterns?....Is going to be like having a NEW keyboard.......I'm looking forward to have one install in my SD1 4.0b..Thanks in advance.
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#32030 - 06/26/03 12:54 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Luka Offline
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Registered: 07/04/01
Posts: 150
Loc: Slovenia
Hi Mdorantes,
your post makes me curious. What do you mean by card for SD1? I don't think cards can be plugged into SD1. Replace maybe?
Luka

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#32031 - 06/26/03 04:07 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 02/23/01
Posts: 3849
Loc: Rome - Italy
Manuel,
there is no such a thing as a "plus card"; you just have to find someone with an SD1 plus who is willing to share the new sounds, styles and registrations.
For the rest, it's the same instrument as before.
Andrea
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#32032 - 06/26/03 07:09 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
DAN.2000 Offline
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Registered: 08/09/01
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Loc: FRANCE
I have the folders "MIDIFILE", "REGIS" and "STYLE" of the SD1+ ... I not tested them already....
Soon...
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#32033 - 06/26/03 07:21 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Luka Offline
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Registered: 07/04/01
Posts: 150
Loc: Slovenia
This is new to me!
Besides additional styles, does SD1+ version have something that SD1 doesn't? Improved hardware, better processor ...?

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#32034 - 06/26/03 07:34 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 02/23/01
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Loc: Rome - Italy
Luka,
the SD1 plus has a new piano sound on the hard disk (a rock piano, with a rather brilliant sound), some new styles and about 200 new song registrations (with settings for styles, left and right hand sounds, etc). The only difference, hardware-wise, are some colored buttons: that's all.
I am sure that all these features will be made available on one of the Ketron clubs (Dan 2000 is a regular on the France Ketron Club, so... )

[This message has been edited by Dreamer (edited 06-26-2003).]
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#32035 - 06/26/03 07:46 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Ketron User Offline
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Registered: 02/02/02
Posts: 220
Hi,

At the latest fair in Frankfurt/Germany, i have spoken to the SD1+ demonstrator (Dany Dayn) and he told me that the SD1+ has also a totaly re-designed hardware-board inside.

This is perhaps the reason why the update 4.0 not work properly with the SD1- keyboards.

Best Regards.

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#32036 - 06/26/03 05:37 PM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
necdetdoni Offline
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Registered: 05/20/03
Posts: 351
Loc: Antalya / Turkey
i was asked to Aj and he wrote that; only one chip added to sd1+.... but for what i dont know

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#32037 - 06/26/03 06:11 PM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
DanO1 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/01
Posts: 3602
Loc: Maryland
Quote:
Originally posted by Dreamer:
Luka,
the SD1 plus has a new piano sound on the hard disk (a rock piano, with a rather brilliant sound), some new styles and about 200 new song registrations (with settings for styles, left and right hand sounds, etc). The only difference, hardware-wise, are some colored buttons: that's all.
I am sure that all these features will be made available on one of the Ketron clubs (Dan 2000 is a regular on the France Ketron Club, so... )

[This message has been edited by Dreamer (edited 06-26-2003).]


Hey Dreamer ,

The new sounds are in the "program" bank .

I played the SD1plus and the sounds seemed to change very little . But ! when I listened to the new program's , I could hear an improvement . I did experience problems moving with in the program banks .

Has anyone experienced problems ?

Dan

Ps. I have the new SD1 styles being offered on the Ketron website . 81 "NEW" styles , 18 disk total . I found these styles were included with the SD1plus .
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#32038 - 06/27/03 12:08 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Luka Offline
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Registered: 07/04/01
Posts: 150
Loc: Slovenia
I believe in what Ketron User says about main board being redesigned. Manufacturers probably improve their hardware from time to time.
What I would like to suggest to Ketron is, if they happen to make some major improvement, it would be practical to make it fit into old keyboards for eventual replacement. I know there are limits in combining old and new, but up to that limit SD1 would become even more flexible.
Luka

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#32039 - 06/28/03 12:12 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I received two SD1plus keybaords today and I spoke with Dan O at his store on the East Coast. Dan and I spoke about how the new voices must first be loaded into the keyboard after power own. Only then do you notice the difference in the voices. Ketron has designed the keybaord so that the first sound in the first Catogory in the Program bank utilized two new sampled voices. The first voice is in location number one of the four possible layers in a program and panned hard left. The second voice is in location 2 of the program and panned hard right. After loading, the difference in this piano over the stock piano is stunning. Although I love the stock grand piano, this Grand Piano 100 is a very bold yet can be played very mellow piano sample. If you would like, you can have the sound be loaded automatically each time you turn the keyboard on by activating the auto load feature found in all X1 and SD keyboards.
The one problem we both noticed, which I believe can be easily fixed, is that after selecting the program called grand piano, even if you haven't loading anything in but the default, which is the same piano as the stock Rom Grand Piano, and if you switch to any other Program banks sound, when returning to the grand piano ( and only the grand piano) you will notice some of the sound you just changed from coming through the Grand Piano program. If I go to any other programs in the SD1plus, this does not happen. I talked with AJ tonight and he doesn't have his SD1plus yet, but we will talk more tommorow and see if we can easily fix this or if it needs a modification he will need to handle. My own observation is that upon looking at the program edit page, I can see 4 sounds. 1 says Grand Piano, 2 says Empty sound but still has a voice location number and if I turn this sound off, the piano sound defintely changes, 3 say sub and 4 says off. I think the name in sound 2 which doesn't say piano or the sound in 3 three which says sub(AJ says this should be off), might be the simple reason why this extra sound is being heard when returning to the GrandPiano program. If however, you choose any other sound in the Piano Program Catagory before returning to the Grand Piano patch, then the Grand Piano sounds perfect again. I don't think this is a software glitch but rather the way the program was saved by the factory. More on this tomorrow.
It was nice talking to Dan O over the phone. He's your good connection on the East Coast and I am your West Coast connection.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

[This message has been edited by George Kaye (edited 06-27-2003).]
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#32040 - 06/28/03 11:47 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I came into my store this morning and figured out what was going on with the SD1 Program GrandPiano. There are two grandpiano samples in the hard drive. One is GrandPiano100 and GrandPiano200. I thought these were for two totally different pianos but what I realized is that the program Grand Piano was created using both the samples and you need to load both. If you only load one, the other location in the program is still empty and if you call up another program using a voice in the same empty location as the grandpiano, then that sound goes into the empty location until you choose another sound. By loading both pianos, which Ketron expected you to do, but doesn't have directions stating this, when you now switch to any other program and return to the grand piano, only the grand piano is heard. Remember, you can do an auto load each time you turn on the SD1plus or you can erase this program and put something else in instead.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#32041 - 06/28/03 08:59 PM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
Posts: 3602
Loc: Middletown, DE
George,

You are correct. It would be wise to create an AUTOLOAD file that will automatically load these new sounds from the HD whenever the keyboard is turned on. Both sounds (Grand100 & 200) need to be loaded for the new Program "NewGrand" Piano to work properly since they are panned to the RIGHT and LEFT.

We chose the option of having you the User determine whether or not you wanted to load these sounds because if you choose this option, your boot up time will be slightly longer than if you just wanted to work with the current sounds in ROM.

All the other exclusive SD1Plus voices will have to be loaded from the HD and these voices have been designed for optimal perfomance on the SD1Plus.

Thanks,

AJ
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#32042 - 03/16/05 01:36 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
mario_pl Offline
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Registered: 03/14/05
Posts: 32
Loc: Poland
Hello AJ!!! Is possible autoloads sounds on Ketron X1? If yes, please tell me more about how do it?
Greetings, Mariusz.

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Originally posted by Ketron_AJ:
George,

You are correct. It would be wise to create an AUTOLOAD file that will automatically load these new sounds from the HD whenever the keyboard is turned on. Both sounds (Grand100 & 200) need to be loaded for the new Program "NewGrand" Piano to work properly since they are panned to the RIGHT and LEFT.

We chose the option of having you the User determine whether or not you wanted to load these sounds because if you choose this option, your boot up time will be slightly longer than if you just wanted to work with the current sounds in ROM.

All the other exclusive SD1Plus voices will have to be loaded from the HD and these voices have been designed for optimal perfomance on the SD1Plus.

Thanks,

AJ

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#32043 - 03/28/05 11:29 PM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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mario_pl

Yes it is possible. You MUST have a Hard Drive installed.

* Go to the folder where the sounds are located (preferably move them to folder -01).
* Select the sounds you want to load and press CREATE BLOCK - F6 (I might be wrong with the F-button but find it on your screen).
* Name the BLOCK. These sounds are now all located within this BLOCK that you created.
* Go back and highlight this block and press SAVE/ENTER to create the Inito.pwr power on file.
* Get back to the default and press SAVE/ENTER ... so the keyboard boots up with the current FOLDER selected (if not 01).

This should do it.

Thanks,

AJ
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#32044 - 03/30/05 03:20 AM Re: When is the "Plus" (card) 4 SD1??
Anonymous
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AJ,

are the sound Grand100 and Grand200 available? if yes where ? is it possible to load them in the X1 or not?

Thanks

Gigi1

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